Well here I am 1.5 years later and have switched all my dogs to raw. The bulldogs got very sensitive digestive tracts from Orijen and I had more problems that it was worth and expensive. So
I was tired of trying every commercial dog food on the market and decided with a lot of thought and investigation I now have them all on raw . I grind all the bones I never give them full bones in case they get stuck in their throats and everything is fresh and healthy , what a difference. Smaller stools , no mess and they are very happy puppies.